some thoughts on online verification
I've been thinking about writing a post on the Discord age verification thing, but the entire situation is milked to death by content creators right now. Everyone feels the need to throw their conspiracy theories and misinformation into every comment section as well, so it just feels like a lot of noise and panic right now. I'll leave it at a retrospective write-up when the dust has settled and not add to the confusion. What I feel like touching on instead is the history of age or name verification online. I've seen many people behave as if this is a new issue or an escalation, and while I understand the concerns, I feel like we shouldn't lose sight of the bigger picture. That's not meant to sugarcoat what's happening or make it seem more harmless, but point out that this has been going on for longer and is part of a bigger pattern. Thinking back on my time online, of course I also had to verify age to purchase games on PlayStation and Steam. But even nowadays, as I have no YouTube account, I get a pop-up that YouTube classifies me as a minor after a few videos. This didn't just start in 2025 when they started using AI to judge users' age; I remember the outrage when YouTube enabled age verification in the first place and asked adult accounts to submit an ID to prove their age. But did anything change? No. People did not leave the platform en masse. I also remember the start of Facebook's real name policy . This de-anonymized people or locked them out of their account unless they provided ID, and targeted ethnic groups a lot, as well as any people whose name on their documents doesn't match the name they go by. It's especially funny to read the justification of " authentic identity is important to the Facebook experience, and our goal is that every account on Facebook should represent a real person " when they are at the forefront of AI user profiles and chatbots right now. Even before and during all that, we have watched as sex workers, NSFW artists and queer people in general have had their accounts demonetized, removed, and payment providers discriminating against them and their platforms due to the general stigma and ideas of "protecting kids". But not many were willing to stand up against that because it surely wouldn't extend to the "respectable people", and only got rid of the people they didn't want to see. My point is: These things are older than the recent UK, Australia and select few US states legal mandates of age verification. Of course, just 'consuming content' in an age-restricted way is different than having direct communication hampered by age restriction and surveilled. Being aware that you are watched can lead to self-censorship. I am reminded of the German " Volkszählungsurteil ", which said (translated by me): “ Anyone who is uncertain whether deviant behavior is being recorded at any time and permanently stored, used, or passed on as information will try not to attract attention through such behavior. […] This would not only impair the individual’s opportunities for personal development, but also the common good, because self-determination is an elementary functional condition of a free democratic community that is based on the capacity of its citizens to act and to participate. From this it follows: Under modern conditions of data processing, the free development of personality presupposes the protection of the individual against unlimited collection, storage, use, and disclosure of personal data. This protection is therefore encompassed by the fundamental right in Article 2(1) in conjunction with Article 1(1) of the Basic Law. To that extent, the fundamental right guarantees the individual the authority, in principle, to determine for themselves the disclosure and use of their personal data. ” Fear of constant monitoring leads to self-censorship and conformity, which harms both individual freedom and democratic participation. But how have we dealt with the knowledge that this is happening? Denial, ignorance, forgetting, defeatism, making memes about our FBI agent, pretending security by obscurity works, focusing on how it makes apps nicer to use, and pretending we have nothing to hide. I saw a YouTuber I like say that Discord surveilling every message for sensitive content or to guess your age is like sending all your messages to the FBI. That left me a little speechless. Unfortunately, it's like many haven't learned anything from the Snowden era. US intelligence is already allowed to almost freely collect data on you 1 , and even as a non-US citizen, see FISA 702 bulk surveillance. Stuff like that is exactly why Safe Harbor and Privacy Shield failed, and why the current upholding of the EU-US Privacy Framework is a farce. This is the issue with no encryption. This is exactly why your privacy-conscious friends were leading you towards options that could be encrypted (and why governments everywhere wage a war on encryption). If you send something via unencrypted means, technically speaking, you must treat it as consent for it to be collected, compiled and evaluated, which sucks. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Even I struggle with that! This is extremely uncomfortable, especially when most of us were only educated on this years into treating our data on services as private and safe, or when we were children who didn't know how to properly judge the consequences of our actions online and were surrounded by others who did the same thing. This is also a boiling frog situation. You point out for years that the amount of data these giants collect on you is not okay. You advise people to go look into Google or Twitter settings and see what they are grouped as for targeted advertising, to show them exactly what data is collected as an eye-opener, and to turn stuff off. You advise people what services they could switch to. Instead, many people doubled down on it because the recommendations of the algorithm and ads are so good, having a home assistant like Alexa is so sci-fi and convenient, and a Ring camera and a pet camera is the pinnacle of home-safety. The more private service is ugly or doesn't auto-detect your music or whatever else weird reason people can think of. Only now, with a US government becoming increasingly dangerous, do people seem to rethink it all - deleting some social media accounts, switching away from Google, getting rid of their Ring cameras and the like. The problem is: If you make decisions like that based on your current government, you aren't ready for the next one. If you allow intense data harvesting under a benevolent government, that dataset already exists for when fascists take power. You can point all you want towards countries where being gay or trans is illegal or where women cannot leave the house on their own and act as if this won't affect you; you and them are not so different and very little actually protects you from that. The safest option isn't to hope that the next institution to have access to intense amounts of data every couple years will not misuse it, but that they don't hold this level and amount of data to begin with. The same goes for companies: Even if you trust them now, differences in laws, leadership and profitability can change the circumstances. As a user, you're unlikely to be able to control them, you can only control yourself and your means to an extent. Have you also noticed that 2025 seems to have been the year with the most "Wrapped"s so far? It felt like every app and service had a Wrapped ready for you - even period tracking software! Of course they are very fun to share and get to know your friends better and measure up against them, but they absolutely normalize being comfortable with this sort of surveillance. The mechanisms and data on which services like YouTube and Discord attempt to guess your age for verification are the same ones they use for advertising, the feed algorithm, the Wrapped and the auto-generated playlists you enjoy. So dare to look behind the fun facade and know what these things truly are. " delulu yearning girl dinner friday evening " is another way to present 20-25 years old ", location and interests. Reply via email Published 15 Feb, 2026 Every argument denying this is "they can't do that, that's illegal!" levels of convincing. There are so many intelligence laws, so much careful wording, and also so much internals we do not (yet) know about. It took whistleblowers to show some of it, and recent ICE news shows the tip of the iceberg with what law enforcement and intelligence is willing to do to ensure more surveillance - Palantir, Flock etc. ↩ Every argument denying this is "they can't do that, that's illegal!" levels of convincing. There are so many intelligence laws, so much careful wording, and also so much internals we do not (yet) know about. It took whistleblowers to show some of it, and recent ICE news shows the tip of the iceberg with what law enforcement and intelligence is willing to do to ensure more surveillance - Palantir, Flock etc. ↩